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Post by royalcrown on Dec 10, 2018 6:59:58 GMT -5
Story of the game.....
Seton Hall couldn't miss contested shots while UK couldn't hit open ones. Amen.
For what seems like the zillionth time, an opposing shooter went bananas and UK had no answer. In all fairness, it wasn't like Powell had open looks but it didn't matter.
What bothered me the most was UK sleep-walking through the 1st two minutes of the O.T.. Seton Hall had three starters fouled out, UK just stole the momentum with that last second hail-mary and STILL UK was down four before you could open your 1st O.T. beer.
Montgomery might be good (eventually) but he was a liability on Saturday. Love Herro but he was a liability on Saturday. For my money, Richards needs to be playing more. We don't know what goes on in practice but what I'm seeing in the games says he should be on the court. He appears to have a very nice shot but hasn't put any up since August......
As good as our free-throw shooting was for the game.... we sure needed one more of the last shots from Hagan or PJ to drop.
Oh well...... UK did play a better overall game than has been the case lately but it stung none the less.
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Post by bluejay51 on Dec 10, 2018 9:02:54 GMT -5
We don't have a PG. Down by 1 with 9.5 seconds and we don't get the ball near the rim? The ball should have been on the backboard with 3 seconds left and 5 players crashing the board. Instead they were all waiting for someone else to do something and all they could manage was a poor, off balance 3 attempt as time expires.
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Post by royalcrown on Dec 10, 2018 12:35:58 GMT -5
We don't have a PG. Down by 1 with 9.5 seconds and we don't get the ball near the rim? The ball should have been on the backboard with 3 seconds left and 5 players crashing the board. Instead they were all waiting for someone else to do something and all they could manage was a poor, off balance 3 attempt as time expires. Yep; the whole overtime didn't have much cohesion with the final play being a microcosm thereof. Unbelievably, our "starters" couldn't impose their will on their subs....... |
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Post by catinohio on Dec 10, 2018 15:10:35 GMT -5
Its not even worth discussing anymore. This season has been a huge letdown. We are a 3rd of the way through and I see no improvement, individually or as a team. We have a team with at least 9 guys that hope to play in the NBA that cant even beat Seton Hall. I mean that is downright disgusting. Ive watched teams like Duke, Kansas, Tennessee, Gonzaga, Auburn, etc play and they look like killers out there. They play with attitude and try to embarrass you. They look organized, confident and can execute fundamentals of basketball. I watch our team and i see sheep. A team that cant shoot, cant defend, has no killer instinct, looks lost, the list goes on and on.
If it was me, Id make big changes. Id try a lineup of Green, Johnson, Montgomery, Washington and Travis. The rest of the guys need their minutes cut big time.
Hagans absolutely refuses to score. He gives us nothing offensively and allows a team to essentially play defense 5 on 4.
Herro cant shoot a beach ball into the ocean right now
Quickly cant score either.....he drives to the hoop and prays to get fouled.
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Post by lawmax on Dec 10, 2018 23:55:26 GMT -5
Cal has said it himself: if you have no post presence, your team is a fraud. That's particularly true when your upper class players are also seen taking plays off, committing casual errors and/or accepting the bench as their primary location. Whatever positive statistical status we have right now has been largely achieved against poor competition. I hate to say it, but I can't think of a single thing that we do right now that's at an elite level or near it. Nothing.
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Post by bnewt on Dec 12, 2018 7:31:39 GMT -5
true there is no point guard play, but my problem is that even when the post player has post position, NOONE gets them the ball at the proper time
the has been a pet peeve of mine since Cuz was playing. some many times the center will have great position never to receive a pass. then post player
then becomes frustrated & when he does get the ball, he becomes a black hole. If the post player got the ball on time, he could score or kick it back out for
an open 3. but the frustration causes them to stop moving & become a spectator. again, I think this is on Cal. He should demand that the ball go inside.
If he had done this against WVU & Wi, there might be another NCAA trophy in Lexington.
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Post by bobbyblue on Dec 19, 2018 10:22:19 GMT -5
It all comes down to recruiting and player evaluation.
I see the recruiting failures and begin to wonder if the rumors that Nike is working behind the scenes, against Cal, because his guys do not fall into line and endorse the Nike shoe line upon being drafted ?
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Post by mccollums on Dec 19, 2018 12:15:28 GMT -5
This board is WAY too negative right now. One of the reasons I like this board is because it's not a shit show like Rupp Rafters. Every thread turns into an argument there. So, it's not my intention to start an argument with this post.
It's only December.
I agree, things are not looking great with this team right now. We are most likely missing a hyper elite player to help us through the growing pains of a young team. Without the elite recruit(s) we probably don't have enough experience to make a serious run. All of our guards are Freshman now.
But, can anyone else agree it's early and there is still a lot of basketball to be played. Never know how the team will gel and how the bracket will fall in March. We still have some talent/depth/length on this team.
Things have changed in recruiting and things are changing with the style of play in basketball. If we know this, I'm sure Cal knows this. It will be interesting to see if/when and how he starts adjusting. There's also more than 1 way to win a national championship...and it doesn't always require an Anthony Davis...see UNC and Villanova. All we can do is sit back and let it play out. UK is not the "IT" school right now, but that is usually cyclical anyway...we could be again in the next few years easily.
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Post by catinohio on Dec 19, 2018 14:10:33 GMT -5
Talent is questionable(the player rankings appear to be over exagerrated) and the depth/length isnt helping at all. If I saw progress, then I would say yes its early, lets wait and see. I see no progress and after UNC smacks us we will have three losses already having lost to all of the 3 best teams we have played so far. Our resume is horrible and SEC teams are licking their teeth waiting to play us, not to mention Kansas will smack us around too.
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Post by mccollums on Dec 19, 2018 14:50:27 GMT -5
Talent is questionable(the player rankings appear to be over exagerrated) and the depth/length isnt helping at all. If I saw progress, then I would say yes its early, lets wait and see. I see no progress and after UNC smacks us we will have three losses already having lost to all of the 3 best teams we have played so far. Our resume is horrible and SEC teams are licking their teeth waiting to play us, not to mention Kansas will smack us around too. You are right. Currently, our resume is not good. Even if we beat Seton Hall, it still would look soso. But, we have opportunities coming up and although it doesn't feel good now, 1 big win will wake up the fan base. SEC is going to be tough but their will be opportunity to get some key victories there as well. We will take our lumps on the road though and 70% of that will be the whistle.
Talent isn't overwhelming, I definitely agree. We aren't used to that. But Quickley, Hagans, Herro, and Montgomery are not stiffs, they have only 10 real college basketball games under their belt.
I feel confident that Cal will have these guys playing better defense though. That with a little better shooting and it will make a big difference.
I also feel confident that Herro and Quickley will not shoot this bad all year.
I think I will have a stronger opinion after the UL game. Even though there's still lots of time left and I've said before - stranger things have happened in sports.
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