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Post by royalcrown on Sept 4, 2018 11:50:26 GMT -5
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Post by catinohio on Sept 4, 2018 12:33:09 GMT -5
I think its more people putting too much stock in these guys predictions. They dont know any more then anyone else. For all we know, he may have never really even been seriously considering Duke.
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Post by bobbyblue on Sept 4, 2018 21:04:49 GMT -5
Saint K is the media darling,that never does anything wrong, and the talking heads,for the last 4 years,unceasingly jump Puke into the favorites role with almost every player that Cal has on his list,especially the top ten kids.
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Post by lawmax on Sept 5, 2018 10:35:50 GMT -5
Well, I'd say Villanova and Wright have established their credibility over the last several years and are going to be significant factors to deal with.
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Post by catinohio on Sept 5, 2018 14:01:53 GMT -5
I dont see Villanova as major competition at all. Sure they will grab a guy here and there, as they deserve to, but I dont see them pulling in mass hauls of 5 star guys on a yearly basis. They seem to build their team more stretched out as far as experience goes as opposed to an influx of freshman. Id much rather see a top talent choose them as opposed to some of the head scratchers that we have seen recently with kids choosing schools that either have no market at all or cant even make the tournament.
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Post by bobbyblue on Sept 5, 2018 19:43:28 GMT -5
I dont see Villanova as major competition at all. Sure they will grab a guy here and there, as they deserve to, but I dont see them pulling in mass hauls of 5 star guys on a yearly basis. They seem to build their team more stretched out as far as experience goes as opposed to an influx of freshman. Id much rather see a top talent choose them as opposed to some of the head scratchers that we have seen recently with kids choosing schools that either have no market at all or cant even make the tournament. No doubt the FBI could help explain some of the head scratching. |
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Post by lawmax on Sept 6, 2018 0:00:29 GMT -5
I dont see Villanova as major competition at all. Sure they will grab a guy here and there, as they deserve to, but I dont see them pulling in mass hauls of 5 star guys on a yearly basis. They seem to build their team more stretched out as far as experience goes as opposed to an influx of freshman. Id much rather see a top talent choose them as opposed to some of the head scratchers that we have seen recently with kids choosing schools that either have no market at all or cant even make the tournament. I don't necessarily disagree with that, and certainly could have been more precise. I was thinking in terms of our efforts to recruit kids in the upper , right hand quadrant of the country where Nova traditionally recruits. No, Villanova probably isn't going to try and turn itself into a national recruiter. On the other hand, anyone looking at this year's UK roster can see a parallel between the roster Cal has assembled and the approach Nova has taken, ie, bigs who can run and a deep supply of guys with ball skills at 1-3 who can spread the floor and take advantage of it. Nova plays a very attractive style of play, has had a lot of recent success and as that has made it a more credible choice for elite talent, I'd expect the school to take advantage of it. I wouldn't underestimate them. JMO |
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Post by catinohio on Sept 6, 2018 7:57:11 GMT -5
I dont see Villanova as major competition at all. Sure they will grab a guy here and there, as they deserve to, but I dont see them pulling in mass hauls of 5 star guys on a yearly basis. They seem to build their team more stretched out as far as experience goes as opposed to an influx of freshman. Id much rather see a top talent choose them as opposed to some of the head scratchers that we have seen recently with kids choosing schools that either have no market at all or cant even make the tournament. I don't necessarily disagree with that, and certainly could have been more precise. I was thinking in terms of our efforts to recruit kids in the upper , right hand quadrant of the country where Nova traditionally recruits. No, Villanova probably isn't going to try and turn itself into a national recruiter. On the other hand, anyone looking at this year's UK roster can see a parallel between the roster Cal has assembled and the approach Nova has taken, ie, bigs who can run and a deep supply of guys with ball skills at 1-3 who can spread the floor and take advantage of it. Nova plays a very attractive style of play, has had a lot of recent success and as that has made it a more credible choice for elite talent, I'd expect the school to take advantage of it. I wouldn't underestimate them. JMO Im confused here. So you think Villanova is influencing the type of team Cal builds because you see comparisons in this years team to past Villanova teams? The team this year outside of the better and more prevalent outside shooting seems like a typical Calipari team to me. Tons of teams have attractive styles of play. The most popular and on the note only note worthy player from Villanova in the NBA is Kyle Lowry and that was like 12 years years ago. There isnt even another person that can be mentioned. |
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Post by lawmax on Sept 6, 2018 11:06:40 GMT -5
Yes, I do [along with the Golden State Warriors]; the increased balance between athleticism AND shooting IS the difference; and I thought I clarified that I was talking about Nova'a RECENT success. You don't seem to think that this is likely to produce better recruiting; I tend to think otherwise.
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Post by catinohio on Sept 6, 2018 11:54:02 GMT -5
I respect your opinion. I just find it hard to believe that Cal sat there and said, "Hmmm lets do things like Villanova". There are many ways that titles have been won and teams achieved success. Villanova did it their way. NC did it with big men. Kentucky did it with freshman. Teams have done it with senior PG leadership. Teams have done it with experience. Could their success produce better recruiting....sure. I just dont think for a second that Cal is worried about or has to "deal with them" as you stated originally.
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Post by lawmax on Sept 6, 2018 14:35:32 GMT -5
Well, it's something guys on last year's team talked about, but the personnel didn't fit that model. This group does, and I just don't think it's an coincidence.
Coaches adopt stuff used successfully/invented by other coaches all the time; that's where Cal got dribble-drive. So, I don't think it's odd that someone would decide to take an approach similar to the one that's paid big dividends over the last several years for Nova and the GSW.
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Post by crazycat65 on Sept 10, 2018 22:42:40 GMT -5
If I remember correctly, Cal did mention something about Nova and they way they spread the floor and shoot the ball. He wanted a team of shooters or something like that.
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