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Post by royalcrown on Mar 5, 2018 10:35:41 GMT -5
That went pretty much as expected didn't it? If UF shot it well then UK was pretty much a doomed kitty on Saturday and Arkansas did what it does best; lose on-the-road. The resulting seeding is both good and bad for UK. What's "good" is that UK finds itself in the bracket w/ top-seeded, but mortally wounded, Auburn. What's "bad" is the likelyhood of needing to beat a surging Missouri team in order to get to Auburn. All in all, UK does have a reasonable path to the Championship game on Sunday.
For what it's worth (not much) the latest Bracketology dropped UK (6th seed) to the bottom of the West Bracket and out of what was the much less attractive path it was seeing as a "5" the week before. Personally, I'd be happy w/ the brackets as currently rendered.
My "bar" for measuring the success of this years squad is "making the Championship game of the SEC Tournament" and surviving the 1st week of the NCAA. Anything beyond that is just gravy.
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Post by bobbyblue on Mar 5, 2018 11:58:10 GMT -5
Should Ky make it to the championship of the SEC tournament,the Sunday game will mean nothing for the Cats,as far as seeding. The seed,as always, will have been made prior to that game,giving the committee, at Emmerts direction, the usual excuse for the Timbuk 2 placement, in the toughest bracket,as far away from Pukes bracket as possible.
This will never change as long as Cal is here, and the SEC sticks to the time proven, incorrect format, of playing the Championship game on Sunday,just a few hours before posting the selections that always showcase favoritism.
That being said it isn'tt gonna matter this year..... personally I'll be glad to see the bleeding stop,and I am not optomistic about season two with these guys,and we are really screwed if Vanderbilt jumps.,and they don't come up with some foreign,or Grad transfer ,Big.
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Post by lawmax on Mar 5, 2018 11:59:26 GMT -5
Well, I know this isn't what you meant, but good Gator shooting doesn't ordain turning your Asst/turnover ratio upside down and reverting to FT shooting in the 50-60% range, both prime indicators of a lack of focus and being unready to play. Given where we stood [which they knew, full well] it's hard to avoid the conclusion that the 4 game string of improved play was a brief departure from the mediocrity otherwise prevailing.
So, I also expect an early departure from both tourneys, with a record of 1-2 or 2-2 from this point forward. We have a 5 that can't stay on the floor/produce significantly, two principle rotation players that can't shoot consistently from the field or the charity stripe, another who likes to take plays off and several who can't/won't defend effectively. Not a formula for success. Given that most of next years front line will apparently have to come from this crop, as well, it's hard to get jacked about next season, either. JMO
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Post by michael76 on Mar 5, 2018 13:36:32 GMT -5
Would have to agree with lawmax. I just hope Cal isn't going down the Tubby route with recruiting. This year and next are setting up to be back-to-back "meh" years. Perhaps we've been spoiled. Getting out recruited by Duke for two years in a row is adding to my apathy.
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Post by royalcrown on Mar 5, 2018 14:37:48 GMT -5
Would have to agree with lawmax. I just hope Cal isn't going down the Tubby route with recruiting. This year and next are setting up to be back-to-back "meh" years. Perhaps we've been spoiled. Getting out recruited by Duke for two years in a row is adding to my apathy. No doubt we're a spoiled bunch. I remember the "Tubby Years" as tons of "3 Star" talents with the occasional spattering of an elite prospect. Cal's worse effort isn't equivalent to Tubbys best on the recruiting trail. UK may be a flawed bunch that is lacking in chemistry this year but that is still a roster that has nothing but 5-Star talent front-to-back (and will next year too). |
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Post by michael76 on Mar 5, 2018 17:36:51 GMT -5
Granted, Cal's recruiting is much better than Tubby's. Not even close. My reference was meant to be one of relevance. Cal's recruiting for 2017 and 2018 are not at the level of his previous years. I just hope it's an anomaly. Cal has set a high standard. However, to quote Cal, we are to be the "Gold Standard" of college basketball. Recruiting for 2019 needs to match that. Again, I admit, I'm spoiled. Duke has done it the past two recruiting classes. Why not UK? That said, I am comforted Cal is bringing in a "shooter" in Herro as well as getting Baker on the court. We need more shooters.
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Post by crazycat65 on Mar 5, 2018 21:01:31 GMT -5
You also have to take into account that dUKe is the "cool" school now with recruits. It also doesn't help when coach K is playing videos of LeBron and Carmelo praising coach K for seemingly doing nothing.
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Post by floridawildcat on Mar 6, 2018 7:33:31 GMT -5
There was no doubt at the beginning of this season that it wasn't going to be a banner year for BBN. A deep tourney run just wasn't going to happen. A lot of the blame goes to "the youngest team" in college basketball. And, of course, this means no, not little, but no experience. I fear that not only youth was the demise of this year's team but also selfish immaturity. With that being said, I hope with a year of experience and maturity next year will be better. The question becomes though, how much better can it be. I am not sure that next year's recruits will ensure a much better year than this.
So, let's look ahead. There are three things to consider now: 1) it may be two years before another deep tourney run occurs. 2) NBA's talks of changing the rules to where they will take players straight out of high school and put them into the G League may bring a little more parity in recruiting. 3) This year may have benefitted Cal in learning how to coach players who are not OAD's. He has admitted that there have been errors in coaching this year.
Thus, all of this results in the big question - Can BBN be patient and wait for #9?
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Post by wildcatknh on Mar 10, 2018 8:07:10 GMT -5
Agree with much of what has been posted above as to what happened to this season. Let's not forget about the impact of not having Vanderbilt for half the season and then it taking several weeks for him to 'find himself' and for he and the team to learn to play together. A healthy Vanderbilt in the lineup all season long I believe would have resulted in a few less losses over the season, a higher seed in the tourneys and a little better outlook for just how far this team can go in the postseason.
With Vanderbilt in the rotation all season long and fully meshed with the team, it's not a stretch to see us sitting at 26-6 right now with no 4-game losing streak during the season, winning the SEC regular season, in line to take the SEC tourney this weekend and looking at a 2 seed in the NCAA tourney. Then I think our thoughts about this season might be much closer to normal.
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Post by medievil on Mar 10, 2018 15:32:45 GMT -5
well we ARE in line to take the tourny now..lol
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Post by lawmax on Mar 10, 2018 16:17:07 GMT -5
Agree with much of what has been posted above as to what happened to this season. Let's not forget about the impact of not having Vanderbilt for half the season and then it taking several weeks for him to 'find himself' and for he and the team to learn to play together. A healthy Vanderbilt in the lineup all season long I believe would have resulted in a few less losses over the season, a higher seed in the tourneys and a little better outlook for just how far this team can go in the postseason. With Vanderbilt in the rotation all season long and fully meshed with the team, it's not a stretch to see us sitting at 26-6 right now with no 4-game losing streak during the season, winning the SEC regular season, in line to take the SEC tourney this weekend and looking at a 2 seed in the NCAA tourney. Then I think our thoughts about this season might be much closer to normal. Excellent points. |
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Post by royalcrown on Mar 19, 2018 5:17:46 GMT -5
Well; this squad has already exceeded my "goals" for them. Not only did they make the Finals of the SEC Tournament, they won it. They then succeeded in surviving the opening weekend in the NCAA's. But who could have guessed the door would be SOOOOO open for them to get all the way to the Finals?  ? Unbelieveable that they will now be favored in every contest (at least) until the Championship game. C'mon UK, take care of business. |
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Post by TattMan on Mar 19, 2018 7:57:40 GMT -5
Well; this squad has already exceeded my "goals" for them. Not only did they make the Finals of the SEC Tournament, they won it. They then succeeded in surviving the opening weekend in the NCAA's. But who could have guessed the door would be SOOOOO open for them to get all the way to the Finals? ? Unbelieveable that they will now be favored in every contest (at least) until the Championship game. C'mon UK, take care of business. One of the first times I can remember....if not the first time......that a bracket which looked stacked against us has opened up like this one has. It was a fun weekend for me UK WINS......Mich St, UNC, UC. and X all lose Now I await Thursday for UK to take care of business |
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? Unbelieveable that they will now be favored in every contest (at least) until the Championship game. C'mon UK, take care of business.